Malloy Defends Budget to Waterbury Regional Chamber

Facing criticism for his plans to raise taxes, Gov. Dannel Malloy addressed the Waterbury Regional Chamber, Tuesday.

Gov. Dannel Malloy defended his planned tax increases in an address to the Waterbury Regional Chamber Legislative Dinner Tuesday night, praising his budget as a tough but effective way to deal with the state’s overwhelming deficit.

The dinner — held at the Crowne Plaza hotel in Southbury — was conceived as a way for local business owners to meet with a group of town executives and state legislators like local State Senator Rob Kane (R-Watertown) and local State Representatives David Labriola (R-Oxford, Southbury, Naugatuck) and Arthur O’Neill (R-Southbury) who were in attendance.

In a speech and question and answer session that lasted roughly twenty minutes, Malloy mainly addressed his budget and its impact on the state’s $3.3 billion deficit. He stressed the $1.76 billion cuts he has made in services and the fact that most of the state’s debts were inherited from past administrations.

“I can remember presentations from four years ago predicting structural deficits, I can remember presentation from three years ago predicting structural deficits… for whatever reason [Connecticut] failed to change the trajectory and direction of the state,” said Malloy.

“Someone has to stand up and say we’ve got to return some sanity, stability and sustainability and that’s what I’m trying to do in this budget,” he said.

Malloy also addressed his plans to raise $1.5 billion in taxes, saying it was not his only plan to find revenue. He admitted it was “where people have a hard time with this budget” but that it was “what I told you I was going to do.”

“It’s impossible to balance the budget by reducing spending by $3.3 billion,” he said.  “It’s just not there.”

A lot of that spending, he said, came from the need to repay the state’s pension fund and fulfill their medicaid obligations.

In response to a question about whether businesses could truly economize with increased taxes, Malloy further argued that his increases in income and sales tax left property taxes unaffected and kept the tax burden off municipal governments and manufacturing outlets.

Malloy received a warm reception, but many disagreed with his policies. Such as State Sen. Kane, who praised the governor’s proactive stance, but believed that raising taxes may hurt the economy by driving away business.

“In this economy, you have to give people incentives to create more jobs and lowering taxes is the only way to do that,” said Kane.

State Rep. Labriola agreed, saying that raising taxes sent the wrong message to businesses and that Malloy’s rhetoric did not match his actions.

One businessman at the dinner, Chris Hand, said that if taxes were raised, he would be forced to take his business out of state.

Hand owns and pilots a private jet for a New York-based client he declined to name. Hand said he keeps the jet in Oxford because there is no sales tax on a plane his size and the jet fuel tax is relatively affordable but if the situation changed he would have to find a hanger in New York.

“I would have no choice,” said Hand.

Hand, a Democrat, said he was concerned for the sake of his crew. Private jets run with three to five crew members who might be out of work, if jets start moving to different states.

Malloy said that his ultimate goal was a more stable business base, but said that the state would be going through a hard transition to get there.

 “This is our time to reposition our state, and it’s a unique time if you look on a national basis because lots of states are going through the throes of what we need to do,” said Malloy. “And I believe that if we can get it done this year we can reposition ourselves to be more competitive.”

Alex Tytler March 16, 2011 at 01:01 PM
What an idiot we have elected. We will be Michigan. Leaving will be the best alternative.
John Q. Public March 16, 2011 at 03:44 PM
John Q. Public March 16, 2011 at 03:51 PM
Am I wrong ?? http://www.rep-am.com/news/local/545065.txt
Ronald DeRosa (Editor) March 16, 2011 at 04:14 PM
John Q. Public, We did not remove your comments because you brought up a specific point or expressed your opinion. That is your opinion and you are allowed to express that. We don't have a problem with that. In fact, as you have done above, you cited an article, which shows an even further legitimacy to your point on illegal immigrants possibly benefiting from Gov. Malloy's budget. The reason we removed your comments because you used some accusatory language and you spoke blatantly about all immigrants in an unfair light. In particular, your second comment was questionable, in how you referenced all illegal immigrants as being criminals. With these comment sections, it's not a matter of taking one side or the other on an issue. It's a matter of civility, something that I, as the editor, have encouraged often on these open forums. As I have said before, I don't want to limit freedom of speech here and I do not believe in censorship of one's ideas. But if it comes down to accusations or inappropriate language, I make an editorial decision to remove certain comments. I appreciate your interest here and attention. If you'd like to further this discussion don't ever hesitate to call me at 203-605-3213 or e-mail me at ronald.derosa@patch.com. Ron -- Ronald DeRosa Editor, Naugatuck Patch naugatuck.patch.com 203-605-3213 facebook.com/NaugatuckPatch twitter.com/NaugatuckPatch
Alex Tytler March 16, 2011 at 05:54 PM
Illegal immigrants are by definition criminals. They are breaking the law by being here.
Seth Warner March 16, 2011 at 07:42 PM
Not so much. Being in the country without a proper status is a civil infraction, not even a misdemeanor. Other civil infractions include jaywalking, speeding, and failure to fasten your seatbelt.
chris March 16, 2011 at 08:49 PM
Hey Seth, stop. Can you be deported for not wearing a seatbelt? I mean did you seriously just write that with a straight face????
Seth Warner March 16, 2011 at 09:26 PM
Darn straight, a straight face. You're missing an irony here. Of course you shouldn't be deported for jaywalking, and you shouldn't be deported for being without a proper status, either. You should go through an extensive background check, and then you should be offered a clear path to citizenship. Sadly, xenophobia prevents these common sense steps from being implemented.
Greg Kuehn March 16, 2011 at 10:04 PM
I think the phrase "proper status" does not accurately describe "illegal immigrant". A clear path to citizenship... So Joe Honesty, who patiently waits to go through the process the right way gets what lesson learned from the experience of the border jumper who gets a clear path to citizenship? Your statement that an illegal immigrant be offered a clear path to citizenship is fine with me, as long as it's coupled with the proper application papers and a deportation ride back home. As with any process, a review (as you stated) should also be considerate and compassionate enough to account for someone with extenuating circumstances.
Seth Warner March 16, 2011 at 10:57 PM
It looks like we agree on a lot: that immigration laws should be considerate and that it should be easy for immigrants to enter legally. Right now, though, it's not easy to do so. The visa waitlist exceeds 3 million applicants at this point, and through legal means, it can be decades before loved ones can legally meet. Life as an illegal immigrant isn't easy. The non-partisan CBO shows that the majority of illegal immigrants pay Social Security and Medicare taxes, but will never get to see these benefits. Moreover, their illegal statuses open them up to severe labor violations -- including violence -- legitimized by the threat of arrest. If we just legalized undocumented workers, a study by the Center for American Progress found that we would raise our GDP by $1.5 trillion... It seems like we both agree that immigrants should come here legally, but for those in the most desperate of situations, the decades-long process to do so simply isn't possible. Nobody wants to be an illegal immigrant, but sometimes there's no choice. On our end, the demand far exceeds the supply. As a nation of immigrants, it's our job to fix the system to accommodate those hoping to be Americans.
Alex Tytler March 16, 2011 at 11:04 PM
When we weren't socialists it was possible to let any and everybody come. Now that we are, "that isn't possible". That's why there is a law against it, and they are criminals for breaking it.
Marcia Puc March 16, 2011 at 11:07 PM
"a more stable business base" - there will be no base to speak of, let alone build on in the future if these tax proposals pass..... has connecticut not learned anything? businesses have already left the state and now we want more to leave?
Here we go again March 16, 2011 at 11:23 PM
I've tried for hours to ignore this drivel, but I can't. The United States of America sends Billions and Billions of dollars overseas annually to assist other countries. Source of that money - TAXPAYERS LIKE US The State of Connecticut, known better as the "Entitlement State" has a vast array of social service programs and giveaways to Hartford, Bridgeport and New Haven. Source of that money - TAXPAYERS LIKE US The United States cannot afford to be the worlds source of handouts and giveaways. Seth, had you not been born here and immigrated legally, you'd be pretty damn upset that having done it the proper way you then hear people say "lets make it easier" or "streamline the process for those who didn't do it the proper way". It is apparent that ol' Dannel (who's parents couldn't spell Daniel) from the gold coast of Fairfield County, wants all of TAXPAYERS to foot the bill for the entitlement programs. We are in a huge deficit. His first order as governor, don't call me Dan, call me Dannel - Seriously. Now, illegal immigrants and state colleges? Are you kidding? Fix the damn budget! I am one American who is sick of political correctness, they are not undocumented residents, they are ILLEGAL ALIENS. They are a drain on our budgets, look at almost bankrupt California. Now if we could get commentary telling us how to spend our tax money, from someone who actually has a job and pays a mortgage and taxes, the foregoing would have some credibility.
chris March 16, 2011 at 11:44 PM
The problem with college students Seth, like yourself, is that you think you know everything. Don't worry, I was the same way then. I'm sure you've read a lot of literature about politics and such, taken a few classes about it, and so on. That's all well and good.......only problem is you're still wet behind the ears. You haven't lived in the real world yet. You haven't paid a tax in your life. Your views will change, trust me. Oh and yes, we are a nation of immigrants. The difference is that when our European ancestors came here, THEY WORKED for a living. THEY EARNED everything that they got. Come see me in 10 years Seth, we'll chat.
chris March 16, 2011 at 11:55 PM
The voting age in this country really should be 25. Kids just don't have enough life experience to make a logical selection. There are too many things in life that you can't learn in a book. I wonder how many college students voted for this yahoo Malloy.............. Kids don't understand the repercussions of voting the wrong person into office
Mark March 16, 2011 at 11:58 PM
Old guy talking here and he's right. Illegal's don't have much of a choice most of the time and they work hard and pay taxes like we do. The only difference is they never see the benefits and are victims of racism.
chris March 17, 2011 at 12:06 AM
You guys are unbelievable. If it's soooo hard for them here, then they should have stayed in their own country. If they miss their loved ones, they should have stayed in their own country. For every 1 that has a job, there are 2 that don't. What's your point?
Here we go again March 17, 2011 at 12:13 AM
I'm with Chris. If it sucks here---GO HOME! Most illegals DON'T pay taxes. They work under the table, under assumed names and under stolen or made up Social Security Numbers. There is a huge problem with Illegal carrying fraudulent ID cards, Driver Licenses and other necessary papers and numbers as there is a HUGE black market for these items in the ILLEGAL community. The people who should be arrested are those who are employing ILLEGAL aliens. The ILLEGAL aliens should be deported, and if they return again ILLEGALLY, they should be put in jail. America really needs to grow a set and start taking care of itself.
Mark March 17, 2011 at 12:18 AM
All I'm saying is we should be good people. Conditions back home for them are worse, yeah, but that's no excuse to treat them like dirt. It's impossible to get in here legally anymore, and if they could they would. All the stuff I read says that they work hard, pay taxes, and get mistreated. They're people too and we ought to treat them like it.
chris March 17, 2011 at 12:19 AM
It will never change as long as the bleeding hearts want to keep helping the degenerates of this nation.
Mark March 17, 2011 at 12:26 AM
They have to pay property taxes, there's no way to avoid that. And its not the best source (read the footnotes to verify), but it looks like illegal immigrants actually do pay income taxes: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_impact_of_illegal_immigrants_in_the_United_States#Taxes
chris March 17, 2011 at 12:29 AM
Americans are tired of being good people Mark, when does it end? We are having a hard enough time in this economy, why do we have to pay for an illegal immigrant live here????
Lynn March 17, 2011 at 02:03 AM
Mark - We are "good people" more or less!!! But I and many others cannot afford to help people who chose to come here and abuse the great benefits on our behalf!!! A friend has a brother in law in CA who is dying of cancer. In the waiting room there is a illegal alien with the same type of cancer as him. My friends brother in law has over 30,000 in medical bills that his insurance won't cover yet the illegal citizen DOES NOT HAVE TO PAY A CENT and does not even have insurance!!! They talked to each other regarding the medical bills.... Who says illegals pay property taxes and get taxes taken out of their pay??? How many illegals do you know? I know people who hire them, my nephew knows employers in the town he lives in, AND THEY GET PAID CASH. The cars only a few of them can drive are registered in someone elses name (sometimes their bosses names) and I managed a building that had at least one illegal alien tenant who racked up a medical bill plus an electric bill then left!!!! And my brother used to be a landlord for many years in Waterbury, we can tell you stories of many residents from Puerto Rico that were told CT pays good benefits and to go there" who would stay for benefits, rack up electric, phone and rent bills, then leave!!! My brother caught 1 receiving Section 8 at another address besides his!!!! And two other tenants were doing illegal activities in their apts. And you want US citizens to be more good hearted???
Lynn March 17, 2011 at 02:08 AM
And yes, some people take advantage of illegals cause employers know that they cannot call the police or other authority to grieve. But guess what, in the real world I have had bosses who mistreated me in a sense (didn't want to pay, worked me hard for little money etc) that point is moot cause the money is there to earn. I don't mind people who need money to take some of my jobs away (and some of them are in my field) but I do not want to pay taxes so they can come here without following the regulations that were put here for a reason, and I can just get by supporting my family and PAYING FOR MEDICAL INSURANCE!!! Whoever is willing to help these immigrants out, please feel free but NOT AT MY EXPENSE....


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